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How Thick Is Your Skin?

 

angry customerThis week I had an experience with a marketing firm that defies reality. Let this be a lesson to all of us. I had a wonderful face-to-face meeting with this marketing firm that I had planned on using and recommending to my readers. I was so impressed with their ideas and observations, and following our face-to-face meeting, I was convinced that the chemistry was just perfect. I even recommended the firm before signing any contract.

Our meeting was just about perfect with one small exception. They mentioned that the first phase of working together would require them to prepare an expensive and extensive plan. When they mentioned it at the meeting I bristled a bit because over the years I have been burnt by many companies which love to prepare plans but never seem to have them implemented. My recommendation was to implement some of the action steps and after a few months of a mutually profitable relationship where trust had been established, then I would invest in the expensive plan. Other than that the meeting was great.

I then received a written proposal outlining the plan which needless to say took me by surprise considering it was the only thing I objected to. I was terribly disappointed and called up to share any necessary changes. The principal of the company set up a time for a telephone conversation which was later canceled due to a doctor’s appointment. We rescheduled the meeting knowing that it would be taking place while I was driving. I even called in to let her know I was a little early. However, she sent me another e-mail again canceling the meeting. Of course I was driving and really didn’t get a chance to review my e-mails. At that end of the day I wrote and asked what had happened and questioned if they had decided to go in a different direction.

I received a curt response indicating an e-mail had been sent and was questioning why I thought she was untruthful. I wrote back and said if I thought you were untruthful I would not want to meet with you at all. I have learned over the years that when someone says “you can trust me” or “I am honest” or “I am truthful” they are typically the ones you should never ever trust. Why are they even thinking along those lines?

Then I finally have a telephone meeting with the principal of this company who gave another pitch for the expensive plan. I was starting to lose patience when she wanted to know what happened to my previous firm, which indicated that I was perhaps a problem account. I was more than a bit surprised but I stepped back and shared my philosophy on disagreements and how they are truly a healthy step in understanding and compromise. Ask any business person-- they will always share a story about how one of their best customers started out on a bad foot, but then went on to become one of their best and most loyal.

I actually forgave some of the principal’s sophomoric communication skills and I was willing to give this company an opportunity to do business with me and even with you. To my surprise I received a voice message saying that the company had decided to go in a different direction, which is what I had asked them a few days earlier. I only have pity for this company. As the expression goes “if it’s too hot in the kitchen, get out.” Difficult customers are still customers. Difficult people are still people. Difficult situations are opportunities.

Sometimes we have to make our skin a little thicker and don’t let the minutia of the day-to-day he-said-she-said trivia lose sight of the big picture. Because I disagreed I was no longer a prime prospect when in reality we were establishing a much stronger bond because of the conflict in the initial dealings. Always remember to keep your friends close but your enemies closer. It is much easier to deal with someone whom I have to be careful with every word than to deal with someone who I like. You work harder in making the deal and the deals tend to last longer. We dot every “i” and cross every “t.”

All things are for a purpose and I will be signing a contract with a firm that was more responsive to my needs and understanding of my concerns and my readers. I believe that every deal must be a win/win between two parties. Although the road is not always smooth, when two parties overcome obstacles and make things work, it makes for a stronger and long lasting relationship. Maybe the title of this article should have been Opportunities Lost but from my position it is a new door opening. 

Comments

Sounds like your lady with the marketing firm was over selling herself (and her product) and indeed couldn't handle the heat. We are a retail store and had a comment just today from the customer that she has never had such "above and beyond" service. Yet, this past summer, through a couple of mix-ups of our own and one of our suppliers, a customer had a bad experience with us. The more we tried to fix it for this customer, the worse it got. In a final letter from the customer, she stopped just shy of accusing us of causing a complete mental and physical breakdown in her entire family including the children. Thick skin indeed! We do try to learn from all our customer experiences.
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 2:58 AM by Jennifer Lucky
Sounds like the fee for the proposal was a real income generator for them. I would think the "plan" idea would be a standard item for each new client and would be presented as part of the relationship. you learned soemthing about the company before it was too late. 
 
 
 
BTW, did you ever contact any of their cleints for feedback? 
 
David
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:15 AM by David Geller
Yeah, I have owned my own successful retail business but I have also worked in the public sector and I would cringe when a consultant would come along with a long, detailed, useless and expensive "plan." Any plan generally received an initial flurry then sat on the shelf with little implementation. I have learned to recommend to the the powers that funds would be better spent on actionable goals and activities and even funds for "walking around" and viewing other communities activities.
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:21 AM by Gerry
Will we be able to see the turkey play at Christmas? I'm excited!
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:35 AM by David
I have known and will still find people who can't see the forest because of the trees! 
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:58 AM by Teacher's Pet...
That's exactly what I do when someone objects to the price of a suit. I sneer at them and tell them that we don't need or want their business. It's far easier than actually trying to find out of what we offer meets their needs or means, or using selling skills or trying to establish rapport. I get absolutely no return customers, but who needs them?  
 
We have to hear the stupid, I know, but I so much prefer being inspired by the phenomenal.
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:17 AM by Peter Rose
I always think an objection is a buying sign. You objected to the expensive option as a beginning relationship, not as an ending. Too bad they failed to see the opportunity!
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM by Linda
Putting the shoe on the other foot for a minute.  
 
I'm wondering what your reaction would be if a client who was interested in one of your $4,995 "Level 3 Store Evaluations" said to you in your initial meeting "Yes, we're very interested in your Level 3 evaluation, but we'd like you to come down to (name the town) and check out our operation a bit, give a few tips, etc. before we commit to the full program" 
 
As someone - a professionally trained and actually formally educated in the discipline marketing person - who has provided marketing services for 25 years, I've sat in countless meetings where a potential client wanted nothing more than to avail themselves of my "product" without actually committing to a legitimate process. 
 
For every marketing plan that you say "sat on the shelf" I can illustrate many that were well formulated, well executed and successful.  
 
But the plan comes first. It's not "ready, fire, aim" after all.
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:42 AM by Scott McIntyre
First, I assume your marketing needs were for online sales. 
 
In the role of a SCORE mentor advising the buyer like (Rick) for this situation, I would suggest that online marketing companies are so often burned by clients that they often over compensate by trying to front end load the payment schedules and such a start-up fee can be justified.  
 
I do agree that her response is unwise too. But, I think it is still recoverable.  
 
I also know how it uncomfortable it feels to hand over a lot of money on FAITH. 
 
In her defense: 
 
Companies that are not familiar with Online Marketing, often clients they understand that this is a process of trial and error but they don't really believe it until the negative cash-flow is being felt and then they want to jump ship at the first sign of trouble. 
 
Maybe she felt that your unwillingness to commit to the long term plan was an indication that you might be a jumper at the first sign of distress. 
 
Business Plans, marketing plans take time to put together, they require lots of research and analysis. I find that most of the time and effort goes into the plan and implementation is the part that is most easily implemented and monitored. 
 
Another reason for the upfront fees and plan is that there are also clients who are trying to lure you into giving them a long term plan so they can then try to implement it on their own. 
 
Marketing is like trying to seed a cloud for rain. Assuming you have a product/service that people are willing to pay for; lots of prayer, some luck, lots of hard work and time are all required for success. If you think about all of the variables that are out of your control, it just makes sense that online marketing is an adventure full of trials and tribulations. There a hundreds of options that can be implemented based upon your needs. 
 
At best a marketing company can agree to do a set of pre-defined tasks. If that is good enough for you then maybe a "lets try this again" meeting would be in order. 
 
Rick, I see you are a HubSpot. It is a great product/service. Hope you find a good fit. I love HubSpot and recommend them all the time. (They are not a marketing company for those of you who might be wondering. They offer online marketing services via a marketing company.)
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:52 AM by Barry Rickert
It sounds like you were lucky to have them go a different direction - I think they wanted to sell the expensive plan and not the follow through
Posted @ Tuesday, November 29, 2011 2:33 PM by Kathleen English
Can completely sympathise with your experience here Rich, we've had an almost identical problem recently with a marketing firm
Posted @ Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:15 AM by Michael @Filplastic
Yeah, I went to a really expensive steak house the other night and wanted to pick-n-choose off their dollar menu. They didn't have one! pssh, whatever! 
 
While the repeated cancellations are not good business practice, the fact that you didn't want to pay them for what they sold isn't such a horrible thing. Your world will go on and so will theirs. Every time you decide to not buy something is just a decision. No reason to flame a company. 
 
I decided not to buy the lettuce at the grocery store this morning because... well, it doesn't matter why. It's just a decision. I just had a customer who decided to buy the 14 dollar book instead of the 30 dollar one. Everybody calm down. 
 
The correct response is a polite and private "no thank-you" and move on.
Posted @ Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:23 PM by Daniel Despain
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